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Sean Jon
05-04-2007, 23:17
This is just terrible!

The annual slaughter of seals in Canada gets underway this week, despite ongoing pressure from animal welfare groups around the world that the practice is cruel and unnecessary.
Approximately 270,000 seals will be killed in this year's cull - from which the pelts (fur) are exported for the fashion trade, mainly to Europe and East Asia. There are real fears that some of the seals - some of which are under three months old - remain conscious when skinned.

"The mass slaughter and trade in seal fur is horrific, and the sooner Europe makes a solid stand against the Canadian seal hunt the better," said David Bowles, RSPCA head of external affairs.

Take action!
Send an email to Ian McCartney MP, the Minister of State for Trade at the Foreign & Commonwealth Office, and ask for the UK to introduce a ban on seal products from Canada.

http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RSPCA/RSPCARedirect&pg=campaigns

Kyro
05-04-2007, 23:33
To know that things like that happen makes me feel so sick and angry :mad: It's all so unbelievably cruel and unnecessary. Makes me ashamed to be part of a world where these things are allowed to happen.

There are real fears that some of the seals - some of which are under three months old - remain conscious when skinned.
And anyone doing that should have the same done to them :nunu:

spyretto
05-04-2007, 23:52
Until they become a species in danger of extinction like the liger and then they're gonna try to protect them...ironic issit?

Amanda
06-04-2007, 00:22
That is ridiculous. :none:

Amy_Lee_Rocks
06-04-2007, 00:50
Poor seals..they are so cute and cuddlely and so adorable..

*seal seal!*

volk1
06-04-2007, 02:27
Anyone who does such a thing can go throw themselves down a flight of stairs into a pit of man-eating ants. My god. I think of it, and I don't understand how anyone who even has 1/100000th of a soul can do such a thing to a living, breathing animal. An animal that bleeds, and screams in pain. It's sick. Just plain sick. I have seen PETA videos of animals being tortured in so many ways, even skinned ALIVE. All while they are moving around and struggling to break free, some asswipe is ripping their skin off. This has been going on for so long, and it is still going on today, and I don't understand why NOBODY intervenes. I swear on my life, if I ever came across someone like that, ugh, god help them. I would beat them over the head with an ice pick, and skin them alive so they see how it feels. They can all go to hell.

taturocks8
06-04-2007, 02:55
Nooooooooo I hate this :( Idots I'm upset now :(

I love seals they beautiful. If there was no law on going to jail i would a gun kill the men.

I wouldn't mind telling the men off .
Ohhhhh Noooooooo.

Wish there was something to do to stop this .

Whitney
06-04-2007, 02:55
this is really terrible...they are gonna kill 270,000 seals for fur...these people are real idiots and are very cruel

PowerPuff Grrl
06-04-2007, 03:29
Yeah, that's not exactly a good image for this country.
Apparently the figure of 270,000 is not going to met anyhow, at least not to the hunters. Climate change is apparently thinning the ice and making seal pups drown. (http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2426223.ece)

As for the hunters, allow me to play the devil's advocate here but I wouldn't necessarily villianize them so easily. I saw this in a documentary somewhere, these people were probably the same people that were involved in the lucrative fishing industry a while ago until overfishing made the salmon in the East Coast an endangered species. It wasn't their fault however, the government pretty much treated the industry like it was a gold rush and let any idiot with a boat and net acquire a fishing license fishing as much as they want for however ever long as they want. Naturally there was a huge influx of new fishers that didn't know a damn thing about fishing and didn't give the salmon a chance to re-populate so they pretty much sucked everything dry. The government was not smart to forsee this happening.

In any case the fishing industry never recovered and the most of the Atlantic Coast of Canada has been largely unemployed and accepting government aid since. I think this is their only source of revenue, particularly with the smaller villages.

I'm not an apologist, nor am I trying to be one. I just see where they are coming from.

spyretto
06-04-2007, 08:03
this is really terrible...they are gonna kill 270,000 seals for fur...these people are real idiots and are very cruel

If there was no demand for it, there wouldn't be any killing. It's the consumer's fault not the hunters'...I blame society.

volk1
06-04-2007, 18:23
If there was no demand for it, there wouldn't be any killing. It's the consumer's fault not the hunters'...I blame society.

If there weren't any supply, there wouldn't be a demand. In reality, they could just stop. It is cruel and inhumane, as is anything that involves skinning an animal to make a garment. But it's because of money-hungry scumbags that these industries continue.

freddie
06-04-2007, 19:37
Okay but this is not an isolated problem is it? I mean why are seal pups so special? Because they're cute? What about thousands of ultra-intelligent pigs that get massacred in millions, probably billions to serve our daily carnivor needs? Or peace loving cows who end up bleeding to death on the floor of some butchery and consequently your hamburgers? Whales - these gentle giants of the seas - they end their existence being harpooned to death by a bunch of savage Norwegians...

Seals are just the latest buzz word. But we do terrible, inhumane things to animals all the time. It's the dark side of human nature and something that's not worth even thinking about, because it'll only make an animal-lover frustrated. It's like shoveling shit against the tide. :-/

Talyubittu
06-04-2007, 20:21
Freddie - Animal protection laws exist in the USA though, you cannot "massacre" an animal, or well...you're not supposed to. It's not like we take chainsaws into the pasture and then hand people their hamburgers. They're killed in humane ways in my country.

However - you are correct about this "Seal buzz". If large organizations like PETA cannot get this cruelty to stop, then 10 people from tatysite.net will not get the job done either. It's a waste of time to send a letter.

freddie
06-04-2007, 21:05
Trust me - all western countries have regulatives enforcing humane slaughter, but it's utopic to think cruelty to animals never happens. I know for a fact EU has a pretty strict policy of animal cruelty laws, yet I've still seen calves and cows being transported in the blistering sun throughout the continent - sometimes the drivers will take a nap in the airconditioned cabin, leaving animals to suffer in an inadequatly ventilated trailer. And that's EU. I'm scared to even think about stuff that's going on elsewhere. Koreans come to mind with their dog restaurants. There's a grizly story going around that they kill dogs by pouring boiling hot water on them, since them dying in agony will release a lot of adrenalin, thus making the meat nice and tender.

Talyubittu
06-04-2007, 21:51
Trust me - all western countries have regulatives enforcing humane slaughter, but it's utopic to think cruelty to animals never happens. I know for a fact EU has a pretty strict policy of animal cruelty laws, yet I've still seen calves and cows being transported in the blistering sun throughout the continent - sometimes the drivers will take a nap in the airconditioned cabin, leaving animals to suffer in an inadequatly ventilated trailer. And that's EU. I'm scared to even think about stuff that's going on elsewhere. Koreans come to mind with their dog restaurants. There's a grizly story going around that they kill dogs by pouring boiling hot water on them, since them dying in agony will release a lot of adrenalin, thus making the meat nice and tender.


I know it hapens. I wasn't arguing against that. :)

freddie
06-04-2007, 22:28
I know it hapens. I wasn't arguing against that. :)

Yet while doing that you also stated "they're killed in humane ways in your country." I'm just saying you shouldn't kid yourself. I doubt the USA is any better than the EU in that respect. Needless to say I've read about some pretty abhorrent treatment of cattle in certain southern US states.

Talyubittu
06-04-2007, 22:38
Yet while doing that you also stated "they're killed in humane ways in your country." I'm just saying you shouldn't kid yourself. I doubt the USA is any better than the EU in that respect. Needless to say I've read about some pretty abhorrent treatment of cattle in certain southern US states.

That is PART of what I said.

Animal protection laws exist in the USA though, you cannot "massacre" an animal, or well...you're not supposed to.

- My point in this sentence was - there are laws protecting animals. I didn't say inhumane killings do not happen - because they do. I was just pointing out it's not like the USA has no laws protecting animals.

volk1
06-04-2007, 23:27
There's a grizly story going around that they kill dogs by pouring boiling hot water on them, since them dying in agony will release a lot of adrenalin, thus making the meat nice and tender.

This world is sick. :bum:

Talyubittu
07-04-2007, 02:32
This world is sick. :bum:

That is disgusting. This makes me want to be a vegeterian...the world would be better if everyone was Ovo-Lactose Vegeterian.

Amy_Lee_Rocks
07-04-2007, 02:39
*seal seal*

volk1
07-04-2007, 02:48
That is disgusting. This makes me want to be a vegeterian...the world would be better if everyone was Ovo-Lactose Vegeterian.

Indeed it would. Actually, if somebody promised me that if I were to become vegetarian, the cruel slaughtering of animals for food would stop, then I would happily do so. However, in this day and age, to go vegetarian to stop animal cruelty is fruitless (seeing as there would still be a huge market for it), especially with all the money-starved corporate scum floating around. :blabla:

Talyubittu
07-04-2007, 03:07
Indeed. I've been thinking about going vegetarian for awhile anyways....vegetarian chef's are really interesting. they can make vegetables taste so good, its weird. and much more healthy for you.

QueenBee
07-04-2007, 04:38
I don't get the deal about vegetarians... I wanted to be one for a long time, but I started thinking differently. I mean, I'm all against animal cruelty, but aren't humans meat-eaters by nature?

Talyubittu
07-04-2007, 04:44
Nope, we're not :).

We've got both canine's and incisors (Meat eater teath), but we've also got molars (plant teeth).

And honeslty - plants are better for us.

QueenBee
07-04-2007, 04:46
Okay now I'm confused, haha.

We've got both canine's and incisors (Meat eater teath)
They're there for a reason, no?

And honeslty - plants are better for us.
From what I understand, the healthiest "diet" is to eat little or no red meat, and to "replace" that with fish and for example chicken.

Edit: Yay wikipedia!
Humans can consume both plant and animal products. However, it is heavily debated whether humans are actually herbivorous, carnivorous, or omnivorous. Some people claim that humans share numerous physical traits with herbivorous species, while others claim humans are much more similar to carnivores. At the same time the human digestive system is not completely adapted to plant matter or meat, leading many to classify humans as omnivorous.

Amy_Lee_Rocks
07-04-2007, 05:06
Okay now I'm confused, haha.


They're there for a reason, no?


From what I understand, the healthiest "diet" is to eat little or no red meat, and to "replace" that with fish and for example chicken.

Edit: Yay wikipedia!


Human teeth arent as large as real carnivorous animals.
I heard somewhere that stomach acid isnt very good with
digesting meat. Some people get constipated..

Talyubittu
07-04-2007, 05:08
Human teeth arent as large as real carnivorous animals.
I heard somewhere that stomach acid isnt very good with
digesting meat. Some people get constipated..

And some people cannot digest vegetables, it's all your bodies choosing :).

However - I think clasification of Omnivore is best.

Amy_Lee_Rocks
07-04-2007, 05:10
Thats why they stuff Jell-o down your throats in the hospital
if ur body rejects either meet or vegetables..

Talyubittu
07-04-2007, 05:44
...I've never heard of that.

PowerPuff Grrl
07-04-2007, 18:08
Okay but this is not an isolated problem is it? I mean why are seal pups so special? Because they're cute?

That's a really interesting question. This article/slideshow (http://www.slate.com/id/2160742/) discusses that ever issue, apparently it has been common practice for years to make the public aware of potential extinctions of cuter, fuzzier animals at the expense of ugly ones.

Sad, but goddamn that is one ugly creature!

Kyro
07-04-2007, 18:55
Sad, but goddamn that is one ugly creature!
How is that ugly?! It's sooooo cute! :kawai: I've never even heard of them before :bum:

PowerPuff Grrl
07-04-2007, 19:06
I can understand it being so ugly that it's cute. That it doesn't change the fact that it's still ugly, IMHO.
That animal looks like it has been living off crack all these years.

Britney Spears
08-04-2007, 04:20
^ I found your cooment amusing for some reason??? :)

I look at it this way if you are going to kill an animal kill it because you are going to eat it not for the hell of it... it's retarded... :eek:

Amy_Lee_Rocks
08-04-2007, 05:08
...I've never heard of that.

Its cause ur not a Big City boy...weirdo:blabla: